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anyone found a good Generation alternative

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Re: anyone found a good Generation alternative


Post by Jussi Rovanpera » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:33 am

About naming shots in the Resolve timeline:

With a bit of manual work you can have each shot in timeline to match one clip in the bin.

The usage column will show how many times a clip has been used. So you know what clips are used several times.
Bringing that clip from bin to the source monitor, you can use match frame to find the shots in timeline (hitting match frame again will toggle to the next instance)
Copy the the clip in the bin, (the copies will not be linked to the timeline, they are separate instances)
One by one force conform the duplicate shots from the timeline to the copied shots in the bin.
Now each shot in the timeline has a corresponding clip in the bin, and you can change the names of those clips individually.

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Post by theotheo » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:26 pm

The point is to avoid workarounds as they multiply. I had a show with 350 shots, 3 plates on each shot, 3 outputs (QT, EXR and JPG), if I can reduce just 1 click I can save hours.

But probably more importantly, having workarounds like this increase the rate of user error.

All I want is,
Track 1 labeled "reference"
Track 2 Labeled "pl01"
Track 3 Labeled "pl02"
Track 4 Labeled "pl03"

And have Resolve take the CLIP on the timelines name so I can construct filename like

The export tags in the file render doesn't respect the timelines clip names.


But back to the topic,

Has anyone pushed resolve to replace Generation ? If so, how far away are we from doing version review and scripted updates of timelines ?

Thoughts ?

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Re: anyone found a good Generation alternative


Post by Chad » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:12 pm

Scripted updates of timelines you can do. So it's possible to make a script that populates a Resolve project with new shots or as they come off the farm whatever.

The rest is a mess from a UI standpoint. There's some under-the-hood things that are missing, like access to other channels in EXRs or access to EXR metadata. You can't even dispatch renders or even continue to use the application while it's rendering. But even ignoring that, the UI is not purpose built like Generation for what it did. Could they make an extra tab? Yes. Could they make a separate application? Yes. I don't know which makes more sense. Resolve is clunky and it consumes insane resources for "casual" use. Like you can't leave it running in the background while you did your normal work. And it takes too long to get back to your project in Resolve if you don't leave it in the background.

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Re: anyone found a good Generation alternative


Post by intelligent machine » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:46 pm

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Re: anyone found a good Generation alternative


Post by paulrus » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:26 am

Once upon a time, Arvid Bjorn created a project called VFX Desktop:

I have no idea whatever happened to it.


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Re: anyone found a good Generation alternative


Post by jirka » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:35 pm

I remember VFX Desktop, it was great! There was even binary available. The reels are good for digging thru plates, or fixing frames in stop motion. Unfortunately, similar problem to Generation - no multi layer timeline.
I would love to have both - reels AND multi layer timeline, like in old Media Illusion.

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Re: anyone found a good Generation alternative


Post by TAIS » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:44 am

Peter Chamberlain wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 2:16 am
Intersting discussion...
So, after several years, what is your point of view about this Intersting discussion?