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Re: [KAK] - How does KAK work?

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:26 am
by theotheo
Nice one PvH! You've included so many little keying tricks into that tool. Do you often find KAK to be able to pull an entire key all by it self ? Or (for badly shot shots) do you find the need to break the key down to various screen elements, like different keyers for hair and body etc etc.

My ways of keying is very similar to this, but its just laid out modular instead, but its been a while since I've done a regular keying job.

Re: [KAK] - How does KAK work?

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:01 pm
by Tilt
SecondMan wrote: Hope you like it. Making video tutorials is bloody hard. My hat goes off to people who find this easy. ;)

Enjoy! :D
Thanks, Pieter! Your voice is a perfect tutorial voice :-)

Re: [KAK] - How does KAK work?

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:40 pm
by mdharrington
You da' man Pieter 8-)

Unfortunately this will cost me productive hours watching this as I should be editing for a now past deadline....

Re: [KAK] - How does KAK work?

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:10 pm
by SecondMan
theotheo wrote:Nice one PvH! You've included so many little keying tricks into that tool. Do you often find KAK to be able to pull an entire key all by it self ? Or (for badly shot shots) do you find the need to break the key down to various screen elements, like different keyers for hair and body etc etc.

My ways of keying is very similar to this, but its just laid out modular instead, but its been a while since I've done a regular keying job.
Thanks sir :)

It depends. Pretty often, yes, and I would say moreso than with other keyers. Although I did put those external inputs there for a reason. Some shoots are just insane.

I would like to get even closer, though, it's what currently drives most new features. Interestingly I first conceived KAK as a modular solution (and I might still do a spinoff that goes in that direction...), just like the good old days of AdvantEdge, but then found that what I really wanted was one tool that allowed me to do all sorts of different keys without having to rebuild the setup every single time.

Sometimes the most difficult part of it, funnily enough, is finding good examples. People aren't too keen to share original shoots, especially not if they are badly done :) - even more difficult is finding some that I can use publicly, as examples.

I'm still not done with it and have more ideas. But I'm going to give it a little rest now, and let this version sink in.
That said, if you have some tricks that you think could make KAK even better and would like to share, just PM me ;)

Re: [KAK] - How does KAK work?

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:12 pm
by SecondMan
Tilt wrote:
SecondMan wrote: Hope you like it. Making video tutorials is bloody hard. My hat goes off to people who find this easy. ;)

Enjoy! :D
Thanks, Pieter! Your voice is a perfect tutorial voice :-)
Aww, thanks Stefan! :)

Re: [KAK] - How does KAK work?

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:14 pm
by SecondMan
mdharrington wrote:You da' man Pieter 8-)

Unfortunately this will cost me productive hours watching this as I should be editing for a now past deadline....
Haha, thanks!

It should only be a productive 15 minutes though ;)

Re: [KAK] - How does KAK work?

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:43 am
by MaciekF
Thank you Pieter.
Very useful video and great tool.

Re: [KAK] - How does KAK work?

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:22 am
by SecondMan
Thanks MaciekF!

Re: [KAK] - How does KAK work?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:49 am
by drswoboda
Thanks Pieter.
These videos really helped me wrap my head around all the KAK controls. You've done a great job with this and eyeon should be really happy with the work you have done on KAK.
I'm also glad that it still runs on 6.4, although I realize it will soon have to embrace 7 and move on.

Re: [KAK] - How does KAK work?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:03 am
by bfloch
That is the best KAK I've ever seen :-)

Re: [KAK] - How does KAK work?

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:09 pm
by SirEdric
Awesome job, Pieter!

Keep it up!

Eric.